Ways to smooth touchpad/cursor coupling in Ubuntu 18.04, no Synaptics












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Problem Definition



When using the touchpad, the cursor sometimes jumps around a small amount and often fails to detect touch-click.



Attempted Solutions



Some searching suggested installing the old synaptics stuff, which had a dependency on xserver-xorg-core, which was not installed. Installing the package and all its concommitant dependencies yielded a GUI that not only didn't honor the touchpad, but didn't permit keyboard input. Reinstalled Linux from scratch.



Some History



https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104828



It looks like Wayland is now the main vehicle, and some very good work has been done here. One of the commenters expresses concern about CPU usage, a concern I would take issue with given the critical nature of human-mouse pointer coupling (i.e. we're doing this for one process, not 1,000 processes; a little extra CPU for something critical isn't a big deal).



xinput list



xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad id=13 [slave pointer (2)]
⎜ ↳ AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick id=14 [slave pointer (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Video Bus id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Power Button id=9 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Sleep Button id=10 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ Dell WMI hotkeys id=11 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=12 [slave keyboard (3)]
↳ 40:EF:4C:BE:00:4C id=15 [slave keyboard (3)]


xinput list-props "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"



xinput list-props "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"
Device 'AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad':
Device Enabled (149): 1
Coordinate Transformation Matrix (151): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
libinput Tapping Enabled (284): 1
libinput Tapping Enabled Default (285): 0
libinput Tapping Drag Enabled (286): 0
libinput Tapping Drag Enabled Default (287): 1
libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled (288): 0
libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled Default (289): 0
libinput Tapping Button Mapping Enabled (290): 1, 0
libinput Tapping Button Mapping Default (291): 1, 0
libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (292): 0
libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (293): 0
libinput Disable While Typing Enabled (294): 1
libinput Disable While Typing Enabled Default (295): 1
libinput Scroll Methods Available (296): 1, 1, 0
libinput Scroll Method Enabled (297): 1, 0, 0
libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (298): 1, 0, 0
libinput Middle Emulation Enabled (299): 1
libinput Middle Emulation Enabled Default (300): 1
libinput Accel Speed (301): 0.000000
libinput Accel Speed Default (302): 0.000000
libinput Left Handed Enabled (303): 0
libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (304): 0
libinput Send Events Modes Available (269): 1, 1
libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (270): 0, 0
libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (271): 0, 0
Device Node (272): "/dev/input/event6"
Device Product ID (273): 2, 8
libinput Drag Lock Buttons (305): <no items>
libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (306): 1


Note there is no "FingerHigh", "FingerLow" or the other usual properties people suggest changing.



Workaround



Notice the matrix in the properties above. The AlpsPS/2 DualPoint Stick also has such a matrix; by setting the x and y values to something really small, I'm able to achieve precise control using the stick, ergo:



    Coordinate Transformation Matrix (151): 0.050000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.050000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000


This gives me fine-tuned control for 3D model building and CAD work.



My Question to the Community



If anyone has been successful achieving smoother TouchPad operation with this hardware, I would be most interested to know how. My system is a solid older Dell which otherwise mates up very nicely with Ubuntu 18.04.



Thank you.










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    Problem Definition



    When using the touchpad, the cursor sometimes jumps around a small amount and often fails to detect touch-click.



    Attempted Solutions



    Some searching suggested installing the old synaptics stuff, which had a dependency on xserver-xorg-core, which was not installed. Installing the package and all its concommitant dependencies yielded a GUI that not only didn't honor the touchpad, but didn't permit keyboard input. Reinstalled Linux from scratch.



    Some History



    https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104828



    It looks like Wayland is now the main vehicle, and some very good work has been done here. One of the commenters expresses concern about CPU usage, a concern I would take issue with given the critical nature of human-mouse pointer coupling (i.e. we're doing this for one process, not 1,000 processes; a little extra CPU for something critical isn't a big deal).



    xinput list



    xinput list
    ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
    ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
    ⎜ ↳ AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad id=13 [slave pointer (2)]
    ⎜ ↳ AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick id=14 [slave pointer (2)]
    ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Video Bus id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Power Button id=9 [slave keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Sleep Button id=10 [slave keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Dell WMI hotkeys id=11 [slave keyboard (3)]
    ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=12 [slave keyboard (3)]
    ↳ 40:EF:4C:BE:00:4C id=15 [slave keyboard (3)]


    xinput list-props "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"



    xinput list-props "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"
    Device 'AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad':
    Device Enabled (149): 1
    Coordinate Transformation Matrix (151): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
    libinput Tapping Enabled (284): 1
    libinput Tapping Enabled Default (285): 0
    libinput Tapping Drag Enabled (286): 0
    libinput Tapping Drag Enabled Default (287): 1
    libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled (288): 0
    libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled Default (289): 0
    libinput Tapping Button Mapping Enabled (290): 1, 0
    libinput Tapping Button Mapping Default (291): 1, 0
    libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (292): 0
    libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (293): 0
    libinput Disable While Typing Enabled (294): 1
    libinput Disable While Typing Enabled Default (295): 1
    libinput Scroll Methods Available (296): 1, 1, 0
    libinput Scroll Method Enabled (297): 1, 0, 0
    libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (298): 1, 0, 0
    libinput Middle Emulation Enabled (299): 1
    libinput Middle Emulation Enabled Default (300): 1
    libinput Accel Speed (301): 0.000000
    libinput Accel Speed Default (302): 0.000000
    libinput Left Handed Enabled (303): 0
    libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (304): 0
    libinput Send Events Modes Available (269): 1, 1
    libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (270): 0, 0
    libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (271): 0, 0
    Device Node (272): "/dev/input/event6"
    Device Product ID (273): 2, 8
    libinput Drag Lock Buttons (305): <no items>
    libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (306): 1


    Note there is no "FingerHigh", "FingerLow" or the other usual properties people suggest changing.



    Workaround



    Notice the matrix in the properties above. The AlpsPS/2 DualPoint Stick also has such a matrix; by setting the x and y values to something really small, I'm able to achieve precise control using the stick, ergo:



        Coordinate Transformation Matrix (151): 0.050000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.050000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000


    This gives me fine-tuned control for 3D model building and CAD work.



    My Question to the Community



    If anyone has been successful achieving smoother TouchPad operation with this hardware, I would be most interested to know how. My system is a solid older Dell which otherwise mates up very nicely with Ubuntu 18.04.



    Thank you.










    share|improve this question



























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      Problem Definition



      When using the touchpad, the cursor sometimes jumps around a small amount and often fails to detect touch-click.



      Attempted Solutions



      Some searching suggested installing the old synaptics stuff, which had a dependency on xserver-xorg-core, which was not installed. Installing the package and all its concommitant dependencies yielded a GUI that not only didn't honor the touchpad, but didn't permit keyboard input. Reinstalled Linux from scratch.



      Some History



      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104828



      It looks like Wayland is now the main vehicle, and some very good work has been done here. One of the commenters expresses concern about CPU usage, a concern I would take issue with given the critical nature of human-mouse pointer coupling (i.e. we're doing this for one process, not 1,000 processes; a little extra CPU for something critical isn't a big deal).



      xinput list



      xinput list
      ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
      ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
      ⎜ ↳ AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad id=13 [slave pointer (2)]
      ⎜ ↳ AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick id=14 [slave pointer (2)]
      ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
      ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Video Bus id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Power Button id=9 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Sleep Button id=10 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Dell WMI hotkeys id=11 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=12 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ 40:EF:4C:BE:00:4C id=15 [slave keyboard (3)]


      xinput list-props "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"



      xinput list-props "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"
      Device 'AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad':
      Device Enabled (149): 1
      Coordinate Transformation Matrix (151): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
      libinput Tapping Enabled (284): 1
      libinput Tapping Enabled Default (285): 0
      libinput Tapping Drag Enabled (286): 0
      libinput Tapping Drag Enabled Default (287): 1
      libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled (288): 0
      libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled Default (289): 0
      libinput Tapping Button Mapping Enabled (290): 1, 0
      libinput Tapping Button Mapping Default (291): 1, 0
      libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (292): 0
      libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (293): 0
      libinput Disable While Typing Enabled (294): 1
      libinput Disable While Typing Enabled Default (295): 1
      libinput Scroll Methods Available (296): 1, 1, 0
      libinput Scroll Method Enabled (297): 1, 0, 0
      libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (298): 1, 0, 0
      libinput Middle Emulation Enabled (299): 1
      libinput Middle Emulation Enabled Default (300): 1
      libinput Accel Speed (301): 0.000000
      libinput Accel Speed Default (302): 0.000000
      libinput Left Handed Enabled (303): 0
      libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (304): 0
      libinput Send Events Modes Available (269): 1, 1
      libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (270): 0, 0
      libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (271): 0, 0
      Device Node (272): "/dev/input/event6"
      Device Product ID (273): 2, 8
      libinput Drag Lock Buttons (305): <no items>
      libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (306): 1


      Note there is no "FingerHigh", "FingerLow" or the other usual properties people suggest changing.



      Workaround



      Notice the matrix in the properties above. The AlpsPS/2 DualPoint Stick also has such a matrix; by setting the x and y values to something really small, I'm able to achieve precise control using the stick, ergo:



          Coordinate Transformation Matrix (151): 0.050000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.050000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000


      This gives me fine-tuned control for 3D model building and CAD work.



      My Question to the Community



      If anyone has been successful achieving smoother TouchPad operation with this hardware, I would be most interested to know how. My system is a solid older Dell which otherwise mates up very nicely with Ubuntu 18.04.



      Thank you.










      share|improve this question
















      Problem Definition



      When using the touchpad, the cursor sometimes jumps around a small amount and often fails to detect touch-click.



      Attempted Solutions



      Some searching suggested installing the old synaptics stuff, which had a dependency on xserver-xorg-core, which was not installed. Installing the package and all its concommitant dependencies yielded a GUI that not only didn't honor the touchpad, but didn't permit keyboard input. Reinstalled Linux from scratch.



      Some History



      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104828



      It looks like Wayland is now the main vehicle, and some very good work has been done here. One of the commenters expresses concern about CPU usage, a concern I would take issue with given the critical nature of human-mouse pointer coupling (i.e. we're doing this for one process, not 1,000 processes; a little extra CPU for something critical isn't a big deal).



      xinput list



      xinput list
      ⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)]
      ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)]
      ⎜ ↳ AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad id=13 [slave pointer (2)]
      ⎜ ↳ AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint Stick id=14 [slave pointer (2)]
      ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)]
      ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Video Bus id=7 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Video Bus id=8 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Power Button id=9 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Sleep Button id=10 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ Dell WMI hotkeys id=11 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=12 [slave keyboard (3)]
      ↳ 40:EF:4C:BE:00:4C id=15 [slave keyboard (3)]


      xinput list-props "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"



      xinput list-props "AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad"
      Device 'AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad':
      Device Enabled (149): 1
      Coordinate Transformation Matrix (151): 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000
      libinput Tapping Enabled (284): 1
      libinput Tapping Enabled Default (285): 0
      libinput Tapping Drag Enabled (286): 0
      libinput Tapping Drag Enabled Default (287): 1
      libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled (288): 0
      libinput Tapping Drag Lock Enabled Default (289): 0
      libinput Tapping Button Mapping Enabled (290): 1, 0
      libinput Tapping Button Mapping Default (291): 1, 0
      libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (292): 0
      libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (293): 0
      libinput Disable While Typing Enabled (294): 1
      libinput Disable While Typing Enabled Default (295): 1
      libinput Scroll Methods Available (296): 1, 1, 0
      libinput Scroll Method Enabled (297): 1, 0, 0
      libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (298): 1, 0, 0
      libinput Middle Emulation Enabled (299): 1
      libinput Middle Emulation Enabled Default (300): 1
      libinput Accel Speed (301): 0.000000
      libinput Accel Speed Default (302): 0.000000
      libinput Left Handed Enabled (303): 0
      libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (304): 0
      libinput Send Events Modes Available (269): 1, 1
      libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (270): 0, 0
      libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (271): 0, 0
      Device Node (272): "/dev/input/event6"
      Device Product ID (273): 2, 8
      libinput Drag Lock Buttons (305): <no items>
      libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (306): 1


      Note there is no "FingerHigh", "FingerLow" or the other usual properties people suggest changing.



      Workaround



      Notice the matrix in the properties above. The AlpsPS/2 DualPoint Stick also has such a matrix; by setting the x and y values to something really small, I'm able to achieve precise control using the stick, ergo:



          Coordinate Transformation Matrix (151): 0.050000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.050000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 1.000000


      This gives me fine-tuned control for 3D model building and CAD work.



      My Question to the Community



      If anyone has been successful achieving smoother TouchPad operation with this hardware, I would be most interested to know how. My system is a solid older Dell which otherwise mates up very nicely with Ubuntu 18.04.



      Thank you.







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