prove that $A$ is diagonalizable if $A^{3}-3A^{2}-A+3I_{n} = 0$












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$A^{3}-3A^{2}-A+3I_{n} = 0 $



how can i prove that A is diagonalizable .



I don't know how to do when A is written this way






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    Note that if $A=operatorname{Id}_n$, then $A^3-3A^2-A+3operatorname{Id}_n=0$, in spite of the fact that the only root of the characteristic polynomial of $operatorname{Id}_n$ has multiplicity $n$. So, no, you don't have to prove that all roots of the characteristic polynomial of $A$ have multiplicity $1$.
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    yes , you're right i edit my mistake
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    What does "when $A$ is written this way" mean?
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We have :



$A^{3}-3A^{2}-A+3I_{n} = 0 $



how can i prove that A is diagonalizable .



I don't know how to do when A is written this way






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    Note that if $A=operatorname{Id}_n$, then $A^3-3A^2-A+3operatorname{Id}_n=0$, in spite of the fact that the only root of the characteristic polynomial of $operatorname{Id}_n$ has multiplicity $n$. So, no, you don't have to prove that all roots of the characteristic polynomial of $A$ have multiplicity $1$.
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    yes , you're right i edit my mistake
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    What does "when $A$ is written this way" mean?
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$A^{3}-3A^{2}-A+3I_{n} = 0 $



how can i prove that A is diagonalizable .



I don't know how to do when A is written this way






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how can i prove that A is diagonalizable .



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    Note that if $A=operatorname{Id}_n$, then $A^3-3A^2-A+3operatorname{Id}_n=0$, in spite of the fact that the only root of the characteristic polynomial of $operatorname{Id}_n$ has multiplicity $n$. So, no, you don't have to prove that all roots of the characteristic polynomial of $A$ have multiplicity $1$.
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    Note that if $A=operatorname{Id}_n$, then $A^3-3A^2-A+3operatorname{Id}_n=0$, in spite of the fact that the only root of the characteristic polynomial of $operatorname{Id}_n$ has multiplicity $n$. So, no, you don't have to prove that all roots of the characteristic polynomial of $A$ have multiplicity $1$.
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    yes , you're right i edit my mistake
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    What does "when $A$ is written this way" mean?
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Note that if $A=operatorname{Id}_n$, then $A^3-3A^2-A+3operatorname{Id}_n=0$, in spite of the fact that the only root of the characteristic polynomial of $operatorname{Id}_n$ has multiplicity $n$. So, no, you don't have to prove that all roots of the characteristic polynomial of $A$ have multiplicity $1$.
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Note that if $A=operatorname{Id}_n$, then $A^3-3A^2-A+3operatorname{Id}_n=0$, in spite of the fact that the only root of the characteristic polynomial of $operatorname{Id}_n$ has multiplicity $n$. So, no, you don't have to prove that all roots of the characteristic polynomial of $A$ have multiplicity $1$.
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The polynomial $P(X)=X^3-3X^2-X+3 = (X-1)(X-3)(X+1)$ has three distincts real roots and you have $P(A)=0$, so $A$ is diagonalizable over $mathbb{R}$.






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    I think you should provide more explanation for how you go from "three [distinct] real roots" to "diagonalizable".
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Solving a simpler example, $A-cI_n=0$, it's clear that $a_{(i,i)}=c$ because $a_{(i,j)} - cI_{(i,j)} = 0$ for all $i,j in {1,dots,n}$. From here, a slightly more complicated example is $(A-cI)(A-dI)=0$ forces two conditions (for diagonal elements of $A$ and off-diagonal elements of $A$) that will lead you to a solution for general matrix polynomials.






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    We know that the minimal polynomial divides any polynomial that $A$ is a root of. It's pretty easy to guess that $x=1$ is a root, and using polynomial division you can find that the other two roots are $x=-1, x=3$. Since all the roots are of multiplicity $1$, all of the roots of the minimal polynomial are of multiplicity $1$, and so $A$ is diagonalizable.






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      Nice way to do it using this prorpiety , i was wondering what can i say about A being inversible
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    The polynomial $P(X)=X^3-3X^2-X+3 = (X-1)(X-3)(X+1)$ has three distincts real roots and you have $P(A)=0$, so $A$ is diagonalizable over $mathbb{R}$.






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    The polynomial $P(X)=X^3-3X^2-X+3 = (X-1)(X-3)(X+1)$ has three distincts real roots and you have $P(A)=0$, so $A$ is diagonalizable over $mathbb{R}$.






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    The polynomial $P(X)=X^3-3X^2-X+3 = (X-1)(X-3)(X+1)$ has three distincts real roots and you have $P(A)=0$, so $A$ is diagonalizable over $mathbb{R}$.






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    The polynomial $P(X)=X^3-3X^2-X+3 = (X-1)(X-3)(X+1)$ has three distincts real roots and you have $P(A)=0$, so $A$ is diagonalizable over $mathbb{R}$.







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    Solving a simpler example, $A-cI_n=0$, it's clear that $a_{(i,i)}=c$ because $a_{(i,j)} - cI_{(i,j)} = 0$ for all $i,j in {1,dots,n}$. From here, a slightly more complicated example is $(A-cI)(A-dI)=0$ forces two conditions (for diagonal elements of $A$ and off-diagonal elements of $A$) that will lead you to a solution for general matrix polynomials.






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      Solving a simpler example, $A-cI_n=0$, it's clear that $a_{(i,i)}=c$ because $a_{(i,j)} - cI_{(i,j)} = 0$ for all $i,j in {1,dots,n}$. From here, a slightly more complicated example is $(A-cI)(A-dI)=0$ forces two conditions (for diagonal elements of $A$ and off-diagonal elements of $A$) that will lead you to a solution for general matrix polynomials.






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        Solving a simpler example, $A-cI_n=0$, it's clear that $a_{(i,i)}=c$ because $a_{(i,j)} - cI_{(i,j)} = 0$ for all $i,j in {1,dots,n}$. From here, a slightly more complicated example is $(A-cI)(A-dI)=0$ forces two conditions (for diagonal elements of $A$ and off-diagonal elements of $A$) that will lead you to a solution for general matrix polynomials.






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        Solving a simpler example, $A-cI_n=0$, it's clear that $a_{(i,i)}=c$ because $a_{(i,j)} - cI_{(i,j)} = 0$ for all $i,j in {1,dots,n}$. From here, a slightly more complicated example is $(A-cI)(A-dI)=0$ forces two conditions (for diagonal elements of $A$ and off-diagonal elements of $A$) that will lead you to a solution for general matrix polynomials.







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            We know that the minimal polynomial divides any polynomial that $A$ is a root of. It's pretty easy to guess that $x=1$ is a root, and using polynomial division you can find that the other two roots are $x=-1, x=3$. Since all the roots are of multiplicity $1$, all of the roots of the minimal polynomial are of multiplicity $1$, and so $A$ is diagonalizable.






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              Nice way to do it using this prorpiety , i was wondering what can i say about A being inversible
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            We know that the minimal polynomial divides any polynomial that $A$ is a root of. It's pretty easy to guess that $x=1$ is a root, and using polynomial division you can find that the other two roots are $x=-1, x=3$. Since all the roots are of multiplicity $1$, all of the roots of the minimal polynomial are of multiplicity $1$, and so $A$ is diagonalizable.






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              Nice way to do it using this prorpiety , i was wondering what can i say about A being inversible
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            We know that the minimal polynomial divides any polynomial that $A$ is a root of. It's pretty easy to guess that $x=1$ is a root, and using polynomial division you can find that the other two roots are $x=-1, x=3$. Since all the roots are of multiplicity $1$, all of the roots of the minimal polynomial are of multiplicity $1$, and so $A$ is diagonalizable.






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            We know that the minimal polynomial divides any polynomial that $A$ is a root of. It's pretty easy to guess that $x=1$ is a root, and using polynomial division you can find that the other two roots are $x=-1, x=3$. Since all the roots are of multiplicity $1$, all of the roots of the minimal polynomial are of multiplicity $1$, and so $A$ is diagonalizable.







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