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I have been invited to visit a professor in a different country. I am very reluctant to go. The government of this country is currently under investigation by the UN for suspicions of crimes against humanity targeted at people of the same ethnic background as me. More generally, people from my ethnic background are legally considered second-class citizens (when they are citizens at all) in this country, and routinely get physically aggressed in the street without the police or army doing anything, even partaking sometimes...



How should I explain to this professor that I do not want to go? Should I get into details, invent a different reason?










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    Are you willing to disclose your ethic background to the professor or do you want to keep it private? Is your reason your personal safety or a broader political statement?

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    A bit redundant to anonymize the question then tag it [israel]

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    Judging from the context, I suspect that your most unpleasant experiences in the relevant country may be security and passport checks which can be quite intrusive for historical reasons. If you just travel for scientific purposes, with no political agenda/activities/trips planned, you will probably be fine once in the country. If you do not wish to go - which you are entitled to, you do not have to justify concerns for your safety to nobody but yourself - then either let your prof know why you do not go, or if for some reason you do not wish to disclose, find some decoy reason.

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    "people from my ethnic background are legally considered second-class citizens" -> [citation needed]

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    3 hours ago






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    I know a researcher who is citizen of an EU country but was born in Teheran and traveled to Israel with his research group. He was questioned for multiple hours in the airport. There were no incidents after that.

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I have been invited to visit a professor in a different country. I am very reluctant to go. The government of this country is currently under investigation by the UN for suspicions of crimes against humanity targeted at people of the same ethnic background as me. More generally, people from my ethnic background are legally considered second-class citizens (when they are citizens at all) in this country, and routinely get physically aggressed in the street without the police or army doing anything, even partaking sometimes...



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    Are you willing to disclose your ethic background to the professor or do you want to keep it private? Is your reason your personal safety or a broader political statement?

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    A bit redundant to anonymize the question then tag it [israel]

    – Azor Ahai
    7 hours ago






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    Judging from the context, I suspect that your most unpleasant experiences in the relevant country may be security and passport checks which can be quite intrusive for historical reasons. If you just travel for scientific purposes, with no political agenda/activities/trips planned, you will probably be fine once in the country. If you do not wish to go - which you are entitled to, you do not have to justify concerns for your safety to nobody but yourself - then either let your prof know why you do not go, or if for some reason you do not wish to disclose, find some decoy reason.

    – Captain Emacs
    5 hours ago






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    "people from my ethnic background are legally considered second-class citizens" -> [citation needed]

    – JonathanReez
    3 hours ago






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    I know a researcher who is citizen of an EU country but was born in Teheran and traveled to Israel with his research group. He was questioned for multiple hours in the airport. There were no incidents after that.

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    Are you willing to disclose your ethic background to the professor or do you want to keep it private? Is your reason your personal safety or a broader political statement?

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    A bit redundant to anonymize the question then tag it [israel]

    – Azor Ahai
    7 hours ago






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    Judging from the context, I suspect that your most unpleasant experiences in the relevant country may be security and passport checks which can be quite intrusive for historical reasons. If you just travel for scientific purposes, with no political agenda/activities/trips planned, you will probably be fine once in the country. If you do not wish to go - which you are entitled to, you do not have to justify concerns for your safety to nobody but yourself - then either let your prof know why you do not go, or if for some reason you do not wish to disclose, find some decoy reason.

    – Captain Emacs
    5 hours ago






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    "people from my ethnic background are legally considered second-class citizens" -> [citation needed]

    – JonathanReez
    3 hours ago






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    I know a researcher who is citizen of an EU country but was born in Teheran and traveled to Israel with his research group. He was questioned for multiple hours in the airport. There were no incidents after that.

    – Cephalopod
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    Are you willing to disclose your ethic background to the professor or do you want to keep it private? Is your reason your personal safety or a broader political statement?

    – StrongBad
    7 hours ago






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    A bit redundant to anonymize the question then tag it [israel]

    – Azor Ahai
    7 hours ago






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    Judging from the context, I suspect that your most unpleasant experiences in the relevant country may be security and passport checks which can be quite intrusive for historical reasons. If you just travel for scientific purposes, with no political agenda/activities/trips planned, you will probably be fine once in the country. If you do not wish to go - which you are entitled to, you do not have to justify concerns for your safety to nobody but yourself - then either let your prof know why you do not go, or if for some reason you do not wish to disclose, find some decoy reason.

    – Captain Emacs
    5 hours ago






  • 2





    "people from my ethnic background are legally considered second-class citizens" -> [citation needed]

    – JonathanReez
    3 hours ago






  • 2





    I know a researcher who is citizen of an EU country but was born in Teheran and traveled to Israel with his research group. He was questioned for multiple hours in the airport. There were no incidents after that.

    – Cephalopod
    3 hours ago








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Are you willing to disclose your ethic background to the professor or do you want to keep it private? Is your reason your personal safety or a broader political statement?

– StrongBad
7 hours ago





Are you willing to disclose your ethic background to the professor or do you want to keep it private? Is your reason your personal safety or a broader political statement?

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A bit redundant to anonymize the question then tag it [israel]

– Azor Ahai
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A bit redundant to anonymize the question then tag it [israel]

– Azor Ahai
7 hours ago




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Judging from the context, I suspect that your most unpleasant experiences in the relevant country may be security and passport checks which can be quite intrusive for historical reasons. If you just travel for scientific purposes, with no political agenda/activities/trips planned, you will probably be fine once in the country. If you do not wish to go - which you are entitled to, you do not have to justify concerns for your safety to nobody but yourself - then either let your prof know why you do not go, or if for some reason you do not wish to disclose, find some decoy reason.

– Captain Emacs
5 hours ago





Judging from the context, I suspect that your most unpleasant experiences in the relevant country may be security and passport checks which can be quite intrusive for historical reasons. If you just travel for scientific purposes, with no political agenda/activities/trips planned, you will probably be fine once in the country. If you do not wish to go - which you are entitled to, you do not have to justify concerns for your safety to nobody but yourself - then either let your prof know why you do not go, or if for some reason you do not wish to disclose, find some decoy reason.

– Captain Emacs
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"people from my ethnic background are legally considered second-class citizens" -> [citation needed]

– JonathanReez
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"people from my ethnic background are legally considered second-class citizens" -> [citation needed]

– JonathanReez
3 hours ago




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I know a researcher who is citizen of an EU country but was born in Teheran and traveled to Israel with his research group. He was questioned for multiple hours in the airport. There were no incidents after that.

– Cephalopod
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I know a researcher who is citizen of an EU country but was born in Teheran and traveled to Israel with his research group. He was questioned for multiple hours in the airport. There were no incidents after that.

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If I were you I'd have the same concerns. In fact, I'm not like you, and I have the same concerns.



But don't confuse the people of Israel with its government. Certainly there are bad actors there, but I also know many Israelis who are more than decent people and oppose the government actions and attitudes that you worry about.



That said, you may be wise to avoid such a trip. But don't assume, necessarily, that the professor would disagree with your true reasons. There is no way to predict, of course, since opinion about Israeli-Palestinian issues come in "all shades of grey" in Israel.



If it is a question of meeting, rather than visiting the professor's institute, you might suggest meeting elsewhere, say at an international meeting.



To flip it a bit, there are quite a lot of people in the world unwilling to visit the US because of recent trends and attitudes here - and some that are not so recent. And I won't visit Mexico, for example, though I love the place, not because the government is bad, but because of the danger of drug gangs and killings and an ineffective government.






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    It sounds like your latter paragraph is a major part of the OP's concern. Whatever the issues with politics may be, he's mainly worried about his personal safety and with whether the police and military will protect him if he is assaulted, or indeed whether they'll be the ones assaulting him. Mexico and then some, basically. :/

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I work in a country where a few colleagues do not wish to visit, for various reasons. Some of these reasons are based on accurate perceptions and others are based on false perceptions. Some of those colleagues have been willing to frankly discuss their concerns with me, and in some cases I have been able to appropriately assuage their fears; in the end, these people came and were glad they did. But some had legitimate concerns or were simply unwilling to budge -- including some close friends and collaborators. I respect their concerns and opinions, and we have continued to work together even though I know they will never visit. I do not think any less of them for this, and I believe they do not think less of me for working in this country.



My recommendation is to just be honest, but don't let your concerns evolve into a debate over political issues in your colleague's host country.






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    This answer assumes that the professor is reasonable. If you know them, use your social skills to judge whether they are reasonable.



    Tell the professor that you don't want to go there for the reason you told us. They will understand (since they are reasonable). If possible, make another suggestion how you can achieve the goal you had.






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      If I were you I'd have the same concerns. In fact, I'm not like you, and I have the same concerns.



      But don't confuse the people of Israel with its government. Certainly there are bad actors there, but I also know many Israelis who are more than decent people and oppose the government actions and attitudes that you worry about.



      That said, you may be wise to avoid such a trip. But don't assume, necessarily, that the professor would disagree with your true reasons. There is no way to predict, of course, since opinion about Israeli-Palestinian issues come in "all shades of grey" in Israel.



      If it is a question of meeting, rather than visiting the professor's institute, you might suggest meeting elsewhere, say at an international meeting.



      To flip it a bit, there are quite a lot of people in the world unwilling to visit the US because of recent trends and attitudes here - and some that are not so recent. And I won't visit Mexico, for example, though I love the place, not because the government is bad, but because of the danger of drug gangs and killings and an ineffective government.






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        It sounds like your latter paragraph is a major part of the OP's concern. Whatever the issues with politics may be, he's mainly worried about his personal safety and with whether the police and military will protect him if he is assaulted, or indeed whether they'll be the ones assaulting him. Mexico and then some, basically. :/

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      If I were you I'd have the same concerns. In fact, I'm not like you, and I have the same concerns.



      But don't confuse the people of Israel with its government. Certainly there are bad actors there, but I also know many Israelis who are more than decent people and oppose the government actions and attitudes that you worry about.



      That said, you may be wise to avoid such a trip. But don't assume, necessarily, that the professor would disagree with your true reasons. There is no way to predict, of course, since opinion about Israeli-Palestinian issues come in "all shades of grey" in Israel.



      If it is a question of meeting, rather than visiting the professor's institute, you might suggest meeting elsewhere, say at an international meeting.



      To flip it a bit, there are quite a lot of people in the world unwilling to visit the US because of recent trends and attitudes here - and some that are not so recent. And I won't visit Mexico, for example, though I love the place, not because the government is bad, but because of the danger of drug gangs and killings and an ineffective government.






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        It sounds like your latter paragraph is a major part of the OP's concern. Whatever the issues with politics may be, he's mainly worried about his personal safety and with whether the police and military will protect him if he is assaulted, or indeed whether they'll be the ones assaulting him. Mexico and then some, basically. :/

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      If I were you I'd have the same concerns. In fact, I'm not like you, and I have the same concerns.



      But don't confuse the people of Israel with its government. Certainly there are bad actors there, but I also know many Israelis who are more than decent people and oppose the government actions and attitudes that you worry about.



      That said, you may be wise to avoid such a trip. But don't assume, necessarily, that the professor would disagree with your true reasons. There is no way to predict, of course, since opinion about Israeli-Palestinian issues come in "all shades of grey" in Israel.



      If it is a question of meeting, rather than visiting the professor's institute, you might suggest meeting elsewhere, say at an international meeting.



      To flip it a bit, there are quite a lot of people in the world unwilling to visit the US because of recent trends and attitudes here - and some that are not so recent. And I won't visit Mexico, for example, though I love the place, not because the government is bad, but because of the danger of drug gangs and killings and an ineffective government.






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      If I were you I'd have the same concerns. In fact, I'm not like you, and I have the same concerns.



      But don't confuse the people of Israel with its government. Certainly there are bad actors there, but I also know many Israelis who are more than decent people and oppose the government actions and attitudes that you worry about.



      That said, you may be wise to avoid such a trip. But don't assume, necessarily, that the professor would disagree with your true reasons. There is no way to predict, of course, since opinion about Israeli-Palestinian issues come in "all shades of grey" in Israel.



      If it is a question of meeting, rather than visiting the professor's institute, you might suggest meeting elsewhere, say at an international meeting.



      To flip it a bit, there are quite a lot of people in the world unwilling to visit the US because of recent trends and attitudes here - and some that are not so recent. And I won't visit Mexico, for example, though I love the place, not because the government is bad, but because of the danger of drug gangs and killings and an ineffective government.







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        It sounds like your latter paragraph is a major part of the OP's concern. Whatever the issues with politics may be, he's mainly worried about his personal safety and with whether the police and military will protect him if he is assaulted, or indeed whether they'll be the ones assaulting him. Mexico and then some, basically. :/

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        It sounds like your latter paragraph is a major part of the OP's concern. Whatever the issues with politics may be, he's mainly worried about his personal safety and with whether the police and military will protect him if he is assaulted, or indeed whether they'll be the ones assaulting him. Mexico and then some, basically. :/

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      It sounds like your latter paragraph is a major part of the OP's concern. Whatever the issues with politics may be, he's mainly worried about his personal safety and with whether the police and military will protect him if he is assaulted, or indeed whether they'll be the ones assaulting him. Mexico and then some, basically. :/

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      It sounds like your latter paragraph is a major part of the OP's concern. Whatever the issues with politics may be, he's mainly worried about his personal safety and with whether the police and military will protect him if he is assaulted, or indeed whether they'll be the ones assaulting him. Mexico and then some, basically. :/

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      I work in a country where a few colleagues do not wish to visit, for various reasons. Some of these reasons are based on accurate perceptions and others are based on false perceptions. Some of those colleagues have been willing to frankly discuss their concerns with me, and in some cases I have been able to appropriately assuage their fears; in the end, these people came and were glad they did. But some had legitimate concerns or were simply unwilling to budge -- including some close friends and collaborators. I respect their concerns and opinions, and we have continued to work together even though I know they will never visit. I do not think any less of them for this, and I believe they do not think less of me for working in this country.



      My recommendation is to just be honest, but don't let your concerns evolve into a debate over political issues in your colleague's host country.






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        I work in a country where a few colleagues do not wish to visit, for various reasons. Some of these reasons are based on accurate perceptions and others are based on false perceptions. Some of those colleagues have been willing to frankly discuss their concerns with me, and in some cases I have been able to appropriately assuage their fears; in the end, these people came and were glad they did. But some had legitimate concerns or were simply unwilling to budge -- including some close friends and collaborators. I respect their concerns and opinions, and we have continued to work together even though I know they will never visit. I do not think any less of them for this, and I believe they do not think less of me for working in this country.



        My recommendation is to just be honest, but don't let your concerns evolve into a debate over political issues in your colleague's host country.






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          I work in a country where a few colleagues do not wish to visit, for various reasons. Some of these reasons are based on accurate perceptions and others are based on false perceptions. Some of those colleagues have been willing to frankly discuss their concerns with me, and in some cases I have been able to appropriately assuage their fears; in the end, these people came and were glad they did. But some had legitimate concerns or were simply unwilling to budge -- including some close friends and collaborators. I respect their concerns and opinions, and we have continued to work together even though I know they will never visit. I do not think any less of them for this, and I believe they do not think less of me for working in this country.



          My recommendation is to just be honest, but don't let your concerns evolve into a debate over political issues in your colleague's host country.






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          I work in a country where a few colleagues do not wish to visit, for various reasons. Some of these reasons are based on accurate perceptions and others are based on false perceptions. Some of those colleagues have been willing to frankly discuss their concerns with me, and in some cases I have been able to appropriately assuage their fears; in the end, these people came and were glad they did. But some had legitimate concerns or were simply unwilling to budge -- including some close friends and collaborators. I respect their concerns and opinions, and we have continued to work together even though I know they will never visit. I do not think any less of them for this, and I believe they do not think less of me for working in this country.



          My recommendation is to just be honest, but don't let your concerns evolve into a debate over political issues in your colleague's host country.







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              This answer assumes that the professor is reasonable. If you know them, use your social skills to judge whether they are reasonable.



              Tell the professor that you don't want to go there for the reason you told us. They will understand (since they are reasonable). If possible, make another suggestion how you can achieve the goal you had.






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