Does the Darkness spell dispel the Color Spray and Flaming Sphere spells?





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The last sentence of the Darkness spell has the following text:




If any of this spell’s area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled.




The Color Spray spell creates "flashing, colored light", and Flaming Sphere sheds bright and dim light.



Are both of these spells dispelled if they overlap with the Darkness spell?










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The last sentence of the Darkness spell has the following text:




If any of this spell’s area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled.




The Color Spray spell creates "flashing, colored light", and Flaming Sphere sheds bright and dim light.



Are both of these spells dispelled if they overlap with the Darkness spell?










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    Related: What is considered magical light for the purposes of the Darkness spell?, Does the Light cantrip cancel out the 2nd level Darkness spell?, Does light from a flame from a magic weapon dispel Darkness?
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The last sentence of the Darkness spell has the following text:




If any of this spell’s area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled.




The Color Spray spell creates "flashing, colored light", and Flaming Sphere sheds bright and dim light.



Are both of these spells dispelled if they overlap with the Darkness spell?










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The last sentence of the Darkness spell has the following text:




If any of this spell’s area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled.




The Color Spray spell creates "flashing, colored light", and Flaming Sphere sheds bright and dim light.



Are both of these spells dispelled if they overlap with the Darkness spell?







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    Related: What is considered magical light for the purposes of the Darkness spell?, Does the Light cantrip cancel out the 2nd level Darkness spell?, Does light from a flame from a magic weapon dispel Darkness?
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The wording on Darkness reads:




If any of this spell's area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled




Therefore, if darkness overlaps with the light created by either of these spells, then it will dispel that spell. Do keep note of the wording of Darkness though, as it dispels any spell creating light in the area of darkness, this means that if a flaming sphere is 15 ft. away from the edge of the darkness spell, then it will be dispelled, as the light it creates is in a 20 ft. radius away from it.



This seems to be similar for Color Spray. As you mentioned, Color Spray creates




A dazzling array of flashing, colored light




This seems to imply that as long as darkness overlaps the 15 ft. cone that Color Spray creates, it should dispel Color Spray, and therefore end the blinded condition early if Darkness is cast after Color Spray, or prevent it from occurring if darkness is cast before Color Spray, however this is up to the DM's discretion, as it is not really clear what RAW rules here.



Hope this helps!






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    To fully answer the question, you should include color spray as well.
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    Jeremy Crawford seems to agree: sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/no-light-in-the-darkness and twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/949114071571341314.
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    I agree with NautArch. This is a good answer so far, but Color Spray is a harder example to answer than Flaming Sphere, since Color Spray is described as creating light, but it's debatable whether what it creates is "an area of light".
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    @NickBrown good clarification that Darkness dispels spells that "explicitly" create light.
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To add on to Smart_TJ's answer, here is a list of every 2nd level or lower spells that explicitly mentions creating light (per Jeremy Crawford's tweet, provided by Nick Brown) in the PHB:





  • Branding Smite

  • Color Spray


  • Dancing Lights


  • Faerie Fire


  • Flame
    Blade


  • Flaming Sphere


  • Guiding Bolt


  • Light


  • Moonbeam


  • Produce Flame

  • Ray of
    Frost


It would seem all of these spells can be dispelled if cast in the vicinity of a darkness spell.






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    The wording on Darkness reads:




    If any of this spell's area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled




    Therefore, if darkness overlaps with the light created by either of these spells, then it will dispel that spell. Do keep note of the wording of Darkness though, as it dispels any spell creating light in the area of darkness, this means that if a flaming sphere is 15 ft. away from the edge of the darkness spell, then it will be dispelled, as the light it creates is in a 20 ft. radius away from it.



    This seems to be similar for Color Spray. As you mentioned, Color Spray creates




    A dazzling array of flashing, colored light




    This seems to imply that as long as darkness overlaps the 15 ft. cone that Color Spray creates, it should dispel Color Spray, and therefore end the blinded condition early if Darkness is cast after Color Spray, or prevent it from occurring if darkness is cast before Color Spray, however this is up to the DM's discretion, as it is not really clear what RAW rules here.



    Hope this helps!






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      To fully answer the question, you should include color spray as well.
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      – NautArch
      5 hours ago






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      Jeremy Crawford seems to agree: sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/no-light-in-the-darkness and twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/949114071571341314.
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      – Nick Brown
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      I agree with NautArch. This is a good answer so far, but Color Spray is a harder example to answer than Flaming Sphere, since Color Spray is described as creating light, but it's debatable whether what it creates is "an area of light".
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      @NickBrown good clarification that Darkness dispels spells that "explicitly" create light.
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      – Pink Sweetener
      1 hour ago
















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    $begingroup$

    The wording on Darkness reads:




    If any of this spell's area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled




    Therefore, if darkness overlaps with the light created by either of these spells, then it will dispel that spell. Do keep note of the wording of Darkness though, as it dispels any spell creating light in the area of darkness, this means that if a flaming sphere is 15 ft. away from the edge of the darkness spell, then it will be dispelled, as the light it creates is in a 20 ft. radius away from it.



    This seems to be similar for Color Spray. As you mentioned, Color Spray creates




    A dazzling array of flashing, colored light




    This seems to imply that as long as darkness overlaps the 15 ft. cone that Color Spray creates, it should dispel Color Spray, and therefore end the blinded condition early if Darkness is cast after Color Spray, or prevent it from occurring if darkness is cast before Color Spray, however this is up to the DM's discretion, as it is not really clear what RAW rules here.



    Hope this helps!






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      $begingroup$
      To fully answer the question, you should include color spray as well.
      $endgroup$
      – NautArch
      5 hours ago






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      $begingroup$
      Jeremy Crawford seems to agree: sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/no-light-in-the-darkness and twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/949114071571341314.
      $endgroup$
      – Nick Brown
      5 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      I agree with NautArch. This is a good answer so far, but Color Spray is a harder example to answer than Flaming Sphere, since Color Spray is described as creating light, but it's debatable whether what it creates is "an area of light".
      $endgroup$
      – Gandalfmeansme
      4 hours ago










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      @NickBrown good clarification that Darkness dispels spells that "explicitly" create light.
      $endgroup$
      – Pink Sweetener
      1 hour ago














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    The wording on Darkness reads:




    If any of this spell's area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled




    Therefore, if darkness overlaps with the light created by either of these spells, then it will dispel that spell. Do keep note of the wording of Darkness though, as it dispels any spell creating light in the area of darkness, this means that if a flaming sphere is 15 ft. away from the edge of the darkness spell, then it will be dispelled, as the light it creates is in a 20 ft. radius away from it.



    This seems to be similar for Color Spray. As you mentioned, Color Spray creates




    A dazzling array of flashing, colored light




    This seems to imply that as long as darkness overlaps the 15 ft. cone that Color Spray creates, it should dispel Color Spray, and therefore end the blinded condition early if Darkness is cast after Color Spray, or prevent it from occurring if darkness is cast before Color Spray, however this is up to the DM's discretion, as it is not really clear what RAW rules here.



    Hope this helps!






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    The wording on Darkness reads:




    If any of this spell's area overlaps with an area of light created by a spell of 2nd level or lower, the spell that created the light is dispelled




    Therefore, if darkness overlaps with the light created by either of these spells, then it will dispel that spell. Do keep note of the wording of Darkness though, as it dispels any spell creating light in the area of darkness, this means that if a flaming sphere is 15 ft. away from the edge of the darkness spell, then it will be dispelled, as the light it creates is in a 20 ft. radius away from it.



    This seems to be similar for Color Spray. As you mentioned, Color Spray creates




    A dazzling array of flashing, colored light




    This seems to imply that as long as darkness overlaps the 15 ft. cone that Color Spray creates, it should dispel Color Spray, and therefore end the blinded condition early if Darkness is cast after Color Spray, or prevent it from occurring if darkness is cast before Color Spray, however this is up to the DM's discretion, as it is not really clear what RAW rules here.



    Hope this helps!







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    • 1




      $begingroup$
      To fully answer the question, you should include color spray as well.
      $endgroup$
      – NautArch
      5 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Jeremy Crawford seems to agree: sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/no-light-in-the-darkness and twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/949114071571341314.
      $endgroup$
      – Nick Brown
      5 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      I agree with NautArch. This is a good answer so far, but Color Spray is a harder example to answer than Flaming Sphere, since Color Spray is described as creating light, but it's debatable whether what it creates is "an area of light".
      $endgroup$
      – Gandalfmeansme
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      @NickBrown good clarification that Darkness dispels spells that "explicitly" create light.
      $endgroup$
      – Pink Sweetener
      1 hour ago














    • 1




      $begingroup$
      To fully answer the question, you should include color spray as well.
      $endgroup$
      – NautArch
      5 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Jeremy Crawford seems to agree: sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/no-light-in-the-darkness and twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/949114071571341314.
      $endgroup$
      – Nick Brown
      5 hours ago






    • 3




      $begingroup$
      I agree with NautArch. This is a good answer so far, but Color Spray is a harder example to answer than Flaming Sphere, since Color Spray is described as creating light, but it's debatable whether what it creates is "an area of light".
      $endgroup$
      – Gandalfmeansme
      4 hours ago










    • $begingroup$
      @NickBrown good clarification that Darkness dispels spells that "explicitly" create light.
      $endgroup$
      – Pink Sweetener
      1 hour ago








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    $begingroup$
    To fully answer the question, you should include color spray as well.
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    5 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    To fully answer the question, you should include color spray as well.
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    5 hours ago




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    $begingroup$
    Jeremy Crawford seems to agree: sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/no-light-in-the-darkness and twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/949114071571341314.
    $endgroup$
    – Nick Brown
    5 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Jeremy Crawford seems to agree: sageadvice.eu/2014/11/04/no-light-in-the-darkness and twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/949114071571341314.
    $endgroup$
    – Nick Brown
    5 hours ago




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    $begingroup$
    I agree with NautArch. This is a good answer so far, but Color Spray is a harder example to answer than Flaming Sphere, since Color Spray is described as creating light, but it's debatable whether what it creates is "an area of light".
    $endgroup$
    – Gandalfmeansme
    4 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    I agree with NautArch. This is a good answer so far, but Color Spray is a harder example to answer than Flaming Sphere, since Color Spray is described as creating light, but it's debatable whether what it creates is "an area of light".
    $endgroup$
    – Gandalfmeansme
    4 hours ago












    $begingroup$
    @NickBrown good clarification that Darkness dispels spells that "explicitly" create light.
    $endgroup$
    – Pink Sweetener
    1 hour ago




    $begingroup$
    @NickBrown good clarification that Darkness dispels spells that "explicitly" create light.
    $endgroup$
    – Pink Sweetener
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    To add on to Smart_TJ's answer, here is a list of every 2nd level or lower spells that explicitly mentions creating light (per Jeremy Crawford's tweet, provided by Nick Brown) in the PHB:





    • Branding Smite

    • Color Spray


    • Dancing Lights


    • Faerie Fire


    • Flame
      Blade


    • Flaming Sphere


    • Guiding Bolt


    • Light


    • Moonbeam


    • Produce Flame

    • Ray of
      Frost


    It would seem all of these spells can be dispelled if cast in the vicinity of a darkness spell.






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      $begingroup$

      To add on to Smart_TJ's answer, here is a list of every 2nd level or lower spells that explicitly mentions creating light (per Jeremy Crawford's tweet, provided by Nick Brown) in the PHB:





      • Branding Smite

      • Color Spray


      • Dancing Lights


      • Faerie Fire


      • Flame
        Blade


      • Flaming Sphere


      • Guiding Bolt


      • Light


      • Moonbeam


      • Produce Flame

      • Ray of
        Frost


      It would seem all of these spells can be dispelled if cast in the vicinity of a darkness spell.






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        $begingroup$

        To add on to Smart_TJ's answer, here is a list of every 2nd level or lower spells that explicitly mentions creating light (per Jeremy Crawford's tweet, provided by Nick Brown) in the PHB:





        • Branding Smite

        • Color Spray


        • Dancing Lights


        • Faerie Fire


        • Flame
          Blade


        • Flaming Sphere


        • Guiding Bolt


        • Light


        • Moonbeam


        • Produce Flame

        • Ray of
          Frost


        It would seem all of these spells can be dispelled if cast in the vicinity of a darkness spell.






        share|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        To add on to Smart_TJ's answer, here is a list of every 2nd level or lower spells that explicitly mentions creating light (per Jeremy Crawford's tweet, provided by Nick Brown) in the PHB:





        • Branding Smite

        • Color Spray


        • Dancing Lights


        • Faerie Fire


        • Flame
          Blade


        • Flaming Sphere


        • Guiding Bolt


        • Light


        • Moonbeam


        • Produce Flame

        • Ray of
          Frost


        It would seem all of these spells can be dispelled if cast in the vicinity of a darkness spell.







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