IMAP sluggish response with Hotmail/Outlook





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I've noticed in recent months that the ability to send and receive emails has been rather sluggish, or just downright failing. Initially, I've used thunderbird, but I thought I'd try a command line client and installed mutt. Here are the current symptoms:



In thunderbird:




  • When clicking on any mailbox other than Inbox (Drafts, Sent, Junk, Deleted), the loading icon in the top tab shows. However, the icon seems to remain there permanently, suggesting that nothing is happening. This has been confirmed by logging in via the web browser, only to find, for instance, email in the Junk folder. However, the Inbox seems to load just fine. The same symptoms are shown on a second account I have with the same service.


  • Attempting to send an email yields similar results, except that after a few minutes, I receive an error that sending the email has failed



In mutt:




  • Upon starting the software, the status shows "Connecting to outlook.office365.com" for a few minutes, before finally loading the inbox.


  • Sending an email takes several minutes, but unlike thunderbird, it actually gets sent.


  • I rebound G in .muttrc to run the command imap-fetch-mail, as it was doing it for POP by default. When I use this command after sending a test email to myself, the email shows up in my inbox within seconds. Not sure why this works, yet it takes so long to initially connect when starting mutt.


  • Uncertain of how other mailboxes react. Still new to mutt, so I don't know how to view Junk, Sent, or Deleted yet. Please comment if you know what I should be doing.



The question here is what is causing this sluggish response, and how do I fix it? It used to work perfectly, until one day when it didn't. I haven't changed the configuration on thunderbird in any way, and even if I needed to update it, the configuration in mutt is new, yet still doing this.



Account settings in thunderbird:



Server Name: imap-mail.outlook.com
Port: 993
User Name: email.hotmail.com
Connection Security: SSL/TLS
Authentication method: Normal password
SMTP:
Server Name: smtp-mail.outlook.com
Port: 587
User Name: email.hotmail.com
Authentication Method: Normal password
Connection Security: STARTTLS


Contents of ~/.muttrc:



set ssl_starttls=yes
set ssl_force_tls=yes
set imap_user = 'email@hotmail.com'
set imap_pass = 'password'
set from= $imap_user
set use_from=yes
set realname='name'
set folder = imaps://outlook.office365.com:993
set spoolfile = "+INBOX"
set postponed="+[hotmail]/Drafts"
set mail_check = 100
set header_cache = "~/.mutt/cache/headers"
set message_cachedir = "~/.mutt/cache/bodies"
set certificate_file = "~/.mutt/certificates"
set smtp_url = "smtp://$imap_user@smtp.office365.com:587"
set smtp_pass = $imap_pass
set move = no
set imap_keepalive = 900
set record="+Sent"
bind index G imap-fetch-mail


Note that Server Name in thunderbird is different to set folder in mutt. Both suffer from the slow response times, but they both get me my emails eventually. The SMTP server is different between the two configurations as well. I have not yet tested thunderbird with the newer server configuration to see if it solves the issue of failing to send emails, but the main issue of this question is just in regards to the amount of time it takes to accomplish certain tasks.



Further details:




  • mutt version 1.10.1


  • thunderbird version 60.6.1


  • Ubuntu 18.10











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    I've noticed in recent months that the ability to send and receive emails has been rather sluggish, or just downright failing. Initially, I've used thunderbird, but I thought I'd try a command line client and installed mutt. Here are the current symptoms:



    In thunderbird:




    • When clicking on any mailbox other than Inbox (Drafts, Sent, Junk, Deleted), the loading icon in the top tab shows. However, the icon seems to remain there permanently, suggesting that nothing is happening. This has been confirmed by logging in via the web browser, only to find, for instance, email in the Junk folder. However, the Inbox seems to load just fine. The same symptoms are shown on a second account I have with the same service.


    • Attempting to send an email yields similar results, except that after a few minutes, I receive an error that sending the email has failed



    In mutt:




    • Upon starting the software, the status shows "Connecting to outlook.office365.com" for a few minutes, before finally loading the inbox.


    • Sending an email takes several minutes, but unlike thunderbird, it actually gets sent.


    • I rebound G in .muttrc to run the command imap-fetch-mail, as it was doing it for POP by default. When I use this command after sending a test email to myself, the email shows up in my inbox within seconds. Not sure why this works, yet it takes so long to initially connect when starting mutt.


    • Uncertain of how other mailboxes react. Still new to mutt, so I don't know how to view Junk, Sent, or Deleted yet. Please comment if you know what I should be doing.



    The question here is what is causing this sluggish response, and how do I fix it? It used to work perfectly, until one day when it didn't. I haven't changed the configuration on thunderbird in any way, and even if I needed to update it, the configuration in mutt is new, yet still doing this.



    Account settings in thunderbird:



    Server Name: imap-mail.outlook.com
    Port: 993
    User Name: email.hotmail.com
    Connection Security: SSL/TLS
    Authentication method: Normal password
    SMTP:
    Server Name: smtp-mail.outlook.com
    Port: 587
    User Name: email.hotmail.com
    Authentication Method: Normal password
    Connection Security: STARTTLS


    Contents of ~/.muttrc:



    set ssl_starttls=yes
    set ssl_force_tls=yes
    set imap_user = 'email@hotmail.com'
    set imap_pass = 'password'
    set from= $imap_user
    set use_from=yes
    set realname='name'
    set folder = imaps://outlook.office365.com:993
    set spoolfile = "+INBOX"
    set postponed="+[hotmail]/Drafts"
    set mail_check = 100
    set header_cache = "~/.mutt/cache/headers"
    set message_cachedir = "~/.mutt/cache/bodies"
    set certificate_file = "~/.mutt/certificates"
    set smtp_url = "smtp://$imap_user@smtp.office365.com:587"
    set smtp_pass = $imap_pass
    set move = no
    set imap_keepalive = 900
    set record="+Sent"
    bind index G imap-fetch-mail


    Note that Server Name in thunderbird is different to set folder in mutt. Both suffer from the slow response times, but they both get me my emails eventually. The SMTP server is different between the two configurations as well. I have not yet tested thunderbird with the newer server configuration to see if it solves the issue of failing to send emails, but the main issue of this question is just in regards to the amount of time it takes to accomplish certain tasks.



    Further details:




    • mutt version 1.10.1


    • thunderbird version 60.6.1


    • Ubuntu 18.10











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      I've noticed in recent months that the ability to send and receive emails has been rather sluggish, or just downright failing. Initially, I've used thunderbird, but I thought I'd try a command line client and installed mutt. Here are the current symptoms:



      In thunderbird:




      • When clicking on any mailbox other than Inbox (Drafts, Sent, Junk, Deleted), the loading icon in the top tab shows. However, the icon seems to remain there permanently, suggesting that nothing is happening. This has been confirmed by logging in via the web browser, only to find, for instance, email in the Junk folder. However, the Inbox seems to load just fine. The same symptoms are shown on a second account I have with the same service.


      • Attempting to send an email yields similar results, except that after a few minutes, I receive an error that sending the email has failed



      In mutt:




      • Upon starting the software, the status shows "Connecting to outlook.office365.com" for a few minutes, before finally loading the inbox.


      • Sending an email takes several minutes, but unlike thunderbird, it actually gets sent.


      • I rebound G in .muttrc to run the command imap-fetch-mail, as it was doing it for POP by default. When I use this command after sending a test email to myself, the email shows up in my inbox within seconds. Not sure why this works, yet it takes so long to initially connect when starting mutt.


      • Uncertain of how other mailboxes react. Still new to mutt, so I don't know how to view Junk, Sent, or Deleted yet. Please comment if you know what I should be doing.



      The question here is what is causing this sluggish response, and how do I fix it? It used to work perfectly, until one day when it didn't. I haven't changed the configuration on thunderbird in any way, and even if I needed to update it, the configuration in mutt is new, yet still doing this.



      Account settings in thunderbird:



      Server Name: imap-mail.outlook.com
      Port: 993
      User Name: email.hotmail.com
      Connection Security: SSL/TLS
      Authentication method: Normal password
      SMTP:
      Server Name: smtp-mail.outlook.com
      Port: 587
      User Name: email.hotmail.com
      Authentication Method: Normal password
      Connection Security: STARTTLS


      Contents of ~/.muttrc:



      set ssl_starttls=yes
      set ssl_force_tls=yes
      set imap_user = 'email@hotmail.com'
      set imap_pass = 'password'
      set from= $imap_user
      set use_from=yes
      set realname='name'
      set folder = imaps://outlook.office365.com:993
      set spoolfile = "+INBOX"
      set postponed="+[hotmail]/Drafts"
      set mail_check = 100
      set header_cache = "~/.mutt/cache/headers"
      set message_cachedir = "~/.mutt/cache/bodies"
      set certificate_file = "~/.mutt/certificates"
      set smtp_url = "smtp://$imap_user@smtp.office365.com:587"
      set smtp_pass = $imap_pass
      set move = no
      set imap_keepalive = 900
      set record="+Sent"
      bind index G imap-fetch-mail


      Note that Server Name in thunderbird is different to set folder in mutt. Both suffer from the slow response times, but they both get me my emails eventually. The SMTP server is different between the two configurations as well. I have not yet tested thunderbird with the newer server configuration to see if it solves the issue of failing to send emails, but the main issue of this question is just in regards to the amount of time it takes to accomplish certain tasks.



      Further details:




      • mutt version 1.10.1


      • thunderbird version 60.6.1


      • Ubuntu 18.10











      share|improve this question














      I've noticed in recent months that the ability to send and receive emails has been rather sluggish, or just downright failing. Initially, I've used thunderbird, but I thought I'd try a command line client and installed mutt. Here are the current symptoms:



      In thunderbird:




      • When clicking on any mailbox other than Inbox (Drafts, Sent, Junk, Deleted), the loading icon in the top tab shows. However, the icon seems to remain there permanently, suggesting that nothing is happening. This has been confirmed by logging in via the web browser, only to find, for instance, email in the Junk folder. However, the Inbox seems to load just fine. The same symptoms are shown on a second account I have with the same service.


      • Attempting to send an email yields similar results, except that after a few minutes, I receive an error that sending the email has failed



      In mutt:




      • Upon starting the software, the status shows "Connecting to outlook.office365.com" for a few minutes, before finally loading the inbox.


      • Sending an email takes several minutes, but unlike thunderbird, it actually gets sent.


      • I rebound G in .muttrc to run the command imap-fetch-mail, as it was doing it for POP by default. When I use this command after sending a test email to myself, the email shows up in my inbox within seconds. Not sure why this works, yet it takes so long to initially connect when starting mutt.


      • Uncertain of how other mailboxes react. Still new to mutt, so I don't know how to view Junk, Sent, or Deleted yet. Please comment if you know what I should be doing.



      The question here is what is causing this sluggish response, and how do I fix it? It used to work perfectly, until one day when it didn't. I haven't changed the configuration on thunderbird in any way, and even if I needed to update it, the configuration in mutt is new, yet still doing this.



      Account settings in thunderbird:



      Server Name: imap-mail.outlook.com
      Port: 993
      User Name: email.hotmail.com
      Connection Security: SSL/TLS
      Authentication method: Normal password
      SMTP:
      Server Name: smtp-mail.outlook.com
      Port: 587
      User Name: email.hotmail.com
      Authentication Method: Normal password
      Connection Security: STARTTLS


      Contents of ~/.muttrc:



      set ssl_starttls=yes
      set ssl_force_tls=yes
      set imap_user = 'email@hotmail.com'
      set imap_pass = 'password'
      set from= $imap_user
      set use_from=yes
      set realname='name'
      set folder = imaps://outlook.office365.com:993
      set spoolfile = "+INBOX"
      set postponed="+[hotmail]/Drafts"
      set mail_check = 100
      set header_cache = "~/.mutt/cache/headers"
      set message_cachedir = "~/.mutt/cache/bodies"
      set certificate_file = "~/.mutt/certificates"
      set smtp_url = "smtp://$imap_user@smtp.office365.com:587"
      set smtp_pass = $imap_pass
      set move = no
      set imap_keepalive = 900
      set record="+Sent"
      bind index G imap-fetch-mail


      Note that Server Name in thunderbird is different to set folder in mutt. Both suffer from the slow response times, but they both get me my emails eventually. The SMTP server is different between the two configurations as well. I have not yet tested thunderbird with the newer server configuration to see if it solves the issue of failing to send emails, but the main issue of this question is just in regards to the amount of time it takes to accomplish certain tasks.



      Further details:




      • mutt version 1.10.1


      • thunderbird version 60.6.1


      • Ubuntu 18.10








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