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          The English word "blessing" usually means "a gift from God" -- so yes, maybe it's not that (though with due gratitude to one's benefactors).



          I suppose it's not meant to be much of a "mystery" either -- e.g. there's a lot of doctrine which explains what "life" is, which predicts, and which makes generalisations (e.g. sabbe sankhara anicca)



          I'm not sure "life is suffering" is right either -- Did the Buddha really say that "life is suffering"?



          I think I've seen (e.g. here but elsewhere too) that life (and especially this life) is an opportunity -- to learn the dhamma, to stay mindful/heedful, for enlightened practice and even to "live the holy life".



          Or if it's true that we don't believe in death then maybe beliefs about "life" (and suffering) are a bit conceited as well.






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            Life as in our existence is explained to be worth escaping from and the escape is possible because there is an element to be discerned apart from life and existence as we know it. The "unconditioned" element, when discerned, it is discerned as superior of the two and an escape even from the highest pleasures of existence and so to it there is a natural inclination and a preference. The release even from the pleasant feelings is the most pleasant of the two because having discerned directly the cessation of feeling and the release from feeling there is inclination to the escape due to the superior discernment of the greater good. Apart from that, the "existence" in the Sutta is once compared to the excrement and is called dukkha and even the rupa and arupa jhana can be explained to be dukkha because there is a progressive release, so the highest release is the purity itself and everything else is defilement by definition.






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            • I assume your answer to my question is "Yes life is suffering according to Buddha" and love to read this kind of clarification.

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              yes if one had all possible information and essential experience to make such distinction one would say that there is an escape from existence and that existence turns out to be comparable to shit.

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              There are levels and categorizations of suffering and an objective standard for not-suffering.

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            Attachment to anything is suffering in Buddhism. A being can experience life with complete freedom from suffering if it doesn't cling to anything. But most important thing is to become free from the self-view and completely disidentifying from it. If there is no identification with the self/ego then it is not possible to experience the life as suffering and the being would have continous peace and joy no matter what is happening in the outside world or in the being's mind. But the ultimate freedom from suffering and the perfect peace and happiness is Nibbana. As for "blessing" or "mystery" words, some spiritual traditions and teachers uses that words for life, I don't know If Buddhism uses these kind of words for life but it says that: "Happiness follows a pure mind".






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              The English word "blessing" usually means "a gift from God" -- so yes, maybe it's not that (though with due gratitude to one's benefactors).



              I suppose it's not meant to be much of a "mystery" either -- e.g. there's a lot of doctrine which explains what "life" is, which predicts, and which makes generalisations (e.g. sabbe sankhara anicca)



              I'm not sure "life is suffering" is right either -- Did the Buddha really say that "life is suffering"?



              I think I've seen (e.g. here but elsewhere too) that life (and especially this life) is an opportunity -- to learn the dhamma, to stay mindful/heedful, for enlightened practice and even to "live the holy life".



              Or if it's true that we don't believe in death then maybe beliefs about "life" (and suffering) are a bit conceited as well.






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                The English word "blessing" usually means "a gift from God" -- so yes, maybe it's not that (though with due gratitude to one's benefactors).



                I suppose it's not meant to be much of a "mystery" either -- e.g. there's a lot of doctrine which explains what "life" is, which predicts, and which makes generalisations (e.g. sabbe sankhara anicca)



                I'm not sure "life is suffering" is right either -- Did the Buddha really say that "life is suffering"?



                I think I've seen (e.g. here but elsewhere too) that life (and especially this life) is an opportunity -- to learn the dhamma, to stay mindful/heedful, for enlightened practice and even to "live the holy life".



                Or if it's true that we don't believe in death then maybe beliefs about "life" (and suffering) are a bit conceited as well.






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                  The English word "blessing" usually means "a gift from God" -- so yes, maybe it's not that (though with due gratitude to one's benefactors).



                  I suppose it's not meant to be much of a "mystery" either -- e.g. there's a lot of doctrine which explains what "life" is, which predicts, and which makes generalisations (e.g. sabbe sankhara anicca)



                  I'm not sure "life is suffering" is right either -- Did the Buddha really say that "life is suffering"?



                  I think I've seen (e.g. here but elsewhere too) that life (and especially this life) is an opportunity -- to learn the dhamma, to stay mindful/heedful, for enlightened practice and even to "live the holy life".



                  Or if it's true that we don't believe in death then maybe beliefs about "life" (and suffering) are a bit conceited as well.






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                  The English word "blessing" usually means "a gift from God" -- so yes, maybe it's not that (though with due gratitude to one's benefactors).



                  I suppose it's not meant to be much of a "mystery" either -- e.g. there's a lot of doctrine which explains what "life" is, which predicts, and which makes generalisations (e.g. sabbe sankhara anicca)



                  I'm not sure "life is suffering" is right either -- Did the Buddha really say that "life is suffering"?



                  I think I've seen (e.g. here but elsewhere too) that life (and especially this life) is an opportunity -- to learn the dhamma, to stay mindful/heedful, for enlightened practice and even to "live the holy life".



                  Or if it's true that we don't believe in death then maybe beliefs about "life" (and suffering) are a bit conceited as well.







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                      Life as in our existence is explained to be worth escaping from and the escape is possible because there is an element to be discerned apart from life and existence as we know it. The "unconditioned" element, when discerned, it is discerned as superior of the two and an escape even from the highest pleasures of existence and so to it there is a natural inclination and a preference. The release even from the pleasant feelings is the most pleasant of the two because having discerned directly the cessation of feeling and the release from feeling there is inclination to the escape due to the superior discernment of the greater good. Apart from that, the "existence" in the Sutta is once compared to the excrement and is called dukkha and even the rupa and arupa jhana can be explained to be dukkha because there is a progressive release, so the highest release is the purity itself and everything else is defilement by definition.






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                      • I assume your answer to my question is "Yes life is suffering according to Buddha" and love to read this kind of clarification.

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                        yes if one had all possible information and essential experience to make such distinction one would say that there is an escape from existence and that existence turns out to be comparable to shit.

                        – 1231546
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                        There are levels and categorizations of suffering and an objective standard for not-suffering.

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                      Life as in our existence is explained to be worth escaping from and the escape is possible because there is an element to be discerned apart from life and existence as we know it. The "unconditioned" element, when discerned, it is discerned as superior of the two and an escape even from the highest pleasures of existence and so to it there is a natural inclination and a preference. The release even from the pleasant feelings is the most pleasant of the two because having discerned directly the cessation of feeling and the release from feeling there is inclination to the escape due to the superior discernment of the greater good. Apart from that, the "existence" in the Sutta is once compared to the excrement and is called dukkha and even the rupa and arupa jhana can be explained to be dukkha because there is a progressive release, so the highest release is the purity itself and everything else is defilement by definition.






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                      • I assume your answer to my question is "Yes life is suffering according to Buddha" and love to read this kind of clarification.

                        – X-pression
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                        yes if one had all possible information and essential experience to make such distinction one would say that there is an escape from existence and that existence turns out to be comparable to shit.

                        – 1231546
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                        There are levels and categorizations of suffering and an objective standard for not-suffering.

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                      Life as in our existence is explained to be worth escaping from and the escape is possible because there is an element to be discerned apart from life and existence as we know it. The "unconditioned" element, when discerned, it is discerned as superior of the two and an escape even from the highest pleasures of existence and so to it there is a natural inclination and a preference. The release even from the pleasant feelings is the most pleasant of the two because having discerned directly the cessation of feeling and the release from feeling there is inclination to the escape due to the superior discernment of the greater good. Apart from that, the "existence" in the Sutta is once compared to the excrement and is called dukkha and even the rupa and arupa jhana can be explained to be dukkha because there is a progressive release, so the highest release is the purity itself and everything else is defilement by definition.






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                      Life as in our existence is explained to be worth escaping from and the escape is possible because there is an element to be discerned apart from life and existence as we know it. The "unconditioned" element, when discerned, it is discerned as superior of the two and an escape even from the highest pleasures of existence and so to it there is a natural inclination and a preference. The release even from the pleasant feelings is the most pleasant of the two because having discerned directly the cessation of feeling and the release from feeling there is inclination to the escape due to the superior discernment of the greater good. Apart from that, the "existence" in the Sutta is once compared to the excrement and is called dukkha and even the rupa and arupa jhana can be explained to be dukkha because there is a progressive release, so the highest release is the purity itself and everything else is defilement by definition.







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                      • I assume your answer to my question is "Yes life is suffering according to Buddha" and love to read this kind of clarification.

                        – X-pression
                        9 hours ago






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                        yes if one had all possible information and essential experience to make such distinction one would say that there is an escape from existence and that existence turns out to be comparable to shit.

                        – 1231546
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                        There are levels and categorizations of suffering and an objective standard for not-suffering.

                        – 1231546
                        8 hours ago



















                      • I assume your answer to my question is "Yes life is suffering according to Buddha" and love to read this kind of clarification.

                        – X-pression
                        9 hours ago






                      • 1





                        yes if one had all possible information and essential experience to make such distinction one would say that there is an escape from existence and that existence turns out to be comparable to shit.

                        – 1231546
                        9 hours ago








                      • 1





                        There are levels and categorizations of suffering and an objective standard for not-suffering.

                        – 1231546
                        8 hours ago

















                      I assume your answer to my question is "Yes life is suffering according to Buddha" and love to read this kind of clarification.

                      – X-pression
                      9 hours ago





                      I assume your answer to my question is "Yes life is suffering according to Buddha" and love to read this kind of clarification.

                      – X-pression
                      9 hours ago




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                      yes if one had all possible information and essential experience to make such distinction one would say that there is an escape from existence and that existence turns out to be comparable to shit.

                      – 1231546
                      9 hours ago







                      yes if one had all possible information and essential experience to make such distinction one would say that there is an escape from existence and that existence turns out to be comparable to shit.

                      – 1231546
                      9 hours ago






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                      There are levels and categorizations of suffering and an objective standard for not-suffering.

                      – 1231546
                      8 hours ago





                      There are levels and categorizations of suffering and an objective standard for not-suffering.

                      – 1231546
                      8 hours ago











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                      Attachment to anything is suffering in Buddhism. A being can experience life with complete freedom from suffering if it doesn't cling to anything. But most important thing is to become free from the self-view and completely disidentifying from it. If there is no identification with the self/ego then it is not possible to experience the life as suffering and the being would have continous peace and joy no matter what is happening in the outside world or in the being's mind. But the ultimate freedom from suffering and the perfect peace and happiness is Nibbana. As for "blessing" or "mystery" words, some spiritual traditions and teachers uses that words for life, I don't know If Buddhism uses these kind of words for life but it says that: "Happiness follows a pure mind".






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                        Attachment to anything is suffering in Buddhism. A being can experience life with complete freedom from suffering if it doesn't cling to anything. But most important thing is to become free from the self-view and completely disidentifying from it. If there is no identification with the self/ego then it is not possible to experience the life as suffering and the being would have continous peace and joy no matter what is happening in the outside world or in the being's mind. But the ultimate freedom from suffering and the perfect peace and happiness is Nibbana. As for "blessing" or "mystery" words, some spiritual traditions and teachers uses that words for life, I don't know If Buddhism uses these kind of words for life but it says that: "Happiness follows a pure mind".






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                          Attachment to anything is suffering in Buddhism. A being can experience life with complete freedom from suffering if it doesn't cling to anything. But most important thing is to become free from the self-view and completely disidentifying from it. If there is no identification with the self/ego then it is not possible to experience the life as suffering and the being would have continous peace and joy no matter what is happening in the outside world or in the being's mind. But the ultimate freedom from suffering and the perfect peace and happiness is Nibbana. As for "blessing" or "mystery" words, some spiritual traditions and teachers uses that words for life, I don't know If Buddhism uses these kind of words for life but it says that: "Happiness follows a pure mind".






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                          Attachment to anything is suffering in Buddhism. A being can experience life with complete freedom from suffering if it doesn't cling to anything. But most important thing is to become free from the self-view and completely disidentifying from it. If there is no identification with the self/ego then it is not possible to experience the life as suffering and the being would have continous peace and joy no matter what is happening in the outside world or in the being's mind. But the ultimate freedom from suffering and the perfect peace and happiness is Nibbana. As for "blessing" or "mystery" words, some spiritual traditions and teachers uses that words for life, I don't know If Buddhism uses these kind of words for life but it says that: "Happiness follows a pure mind".







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